LINux on MOBile - smartv5LINMOB.net is a blog about LINux on MOBile devices. With the PinePhone (Pro) and Librem 5 shipping it is back to report on GNU+Linux on mobile devices.Zola2009-10-19T21:16:00+00:00https://linmob.net/tags/smartv5/feed.xmlMore details regarding the Smart Devices SmartV5 and SmartV7 MIDs2009-10-19T21:16:00+00:002009-10-19T21:16:00+00:00https://linmob.net/more-details-regarding-the-smart-devices-smartv5-and/<p>This evening, after having written down that I was liking the new SmartV5 MID, which isn't yet available in Europe, although it might be in mainland china, back then assuming it was powered by an ARM Cortex A8 based CPU/SoC, i did some research I should have better done before.</p>
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<p>As it turns out, these devices won't most likely be on par in terms of application speed with today's offerings like the Nokia N900. </p>
<p>The SoC being used by Smart Devices for their new offerings is most likely (almost certainly in fact, but not confirmed by Smart Devices) the Telechips TCC8900, an ARM11 based design enhanced with some additional circuits to be able to decode 1080p and encode 720p video, mostly used in PMPs.
This means that one cannot expect outstanding application performance from the new MIDs - but after all, this does not mean that they are “bad” deals - as the HDMI output makes them (at least this seems very likely after another visit to Smart Devices' website) usable for presentations - as long as your (company's) projector supports HDMI. Compared to the overall liked (mostly due to their low prices) predecessors, the Smart Q5 and the Smart Q7, this new devices will be better at multitasking (and be it multi-tabbing while surfing) - 256MB Ram is not that much, but still twice as much as the 128MB the former devices offered, and as the just mentioned memory will be a lot faster (DDR2@330MHz on the V* compared to DDR@133MHz on the Q*) the overall performance can be expected to be better.</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.translate.google.de/translate?prev=hp&hl=de&js=y&u=http://www.smartdevices.com.cn/information/news/200909/24-800.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&history_state0=">Comparison between V and Q devices on SmartDevices.com.cn (translated)</a>,</li>
<li><a href="http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bbs.gou81.com/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D28238">Some information on the Telechips TCC8900 (translated)</a>,</li>
<li><a href="http://telechips.com/">Telechips.com</a>.</li>
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New devices everywhere2009-10-19T10:34:00+00:002009-10-19T10:34:00+00:00https://linmob.net/new-devices-everywhere/<p><em>Christmas holidays are no more that far away, and so many companys get their product portfolios reader for the holidays.</em></p>
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<p>But that wasn't what I wanted to write about. I rather want to comment on all these new mobile smartphonish devices, that are on their way to market right now—we see a new generation of devices—in terms of performance.</p>
<p>Being powered mostly by ARM Cortex A8 based SoCs, manufactured mainly by Texas Instruments (OMAP 3 series) and Qualcomm (Snapdragon) these devices actually have the power to do “real computing tasks” if you want to call it like that—running on the same chips as the still awaited “smartbooks”, which are basically netbooks powered by ARM CPUs.</p>
<p>This said, I just want to name a few devices running Linux based operating systems: <a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/19/motorola-droid-hands-on/">Motorola Droid</a>, <a href="http://www.my-symbian.com/other/preview_n900.php">Nokia N900</a>, <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/16/acer-liquid-slips-through-human-fingers-but-not-before-taking-p/">Acer Liquid</a>—they all rely on ARM Cortex A8 technology and feature WVGA touchscreens.</p>
<p>While all these devices are really nice (e.g. I really like the Motorola Droid and hope that Motorola will offer something comparable for GSM networks (the Droid will be on Verizons CDMA networks) I actually do not consider to buy any of these.</p>
<p>‘Why?’, you might ask, and well, the answer is that I am actually pretty sad about the manufacturers, that just make these devices as smartphones, not as mobile computers—even if some claim so. Still not clear what I want to say?
It is about some simple features these devices lack, though they could actually hardware wise support it. #1 is USB OTG or USB host. Really, this would make these devices much more interesting, not for just for me, but e.g. for IT professionals as well—and #2 is a video output, e.g. HDMI or something similar. If the devices would feature these features, they would be real mobile computing devices if you ask me.</p>
<p>Of course there are reasons why these devices are limited. The manufacturers always would have to supply more drivers for external devices, or open their devices so much, that skilled people would be able to get themselves what they need. Than, considering Acer and Nokia are selling netbooks as well, such mobile computing devices would possibly be bad for netbook sales—though I don't really believe that- netbooks aren't pocketable and another cup of tea. And the last reason is, that there is a rather low demand for these features—only real enthusiasts request such strange stuff ;)</p>
<p>Now there is one more question one might ask: Is there a device which is pocketable and has the features mentionned some lines ago? Well, there is one—or at least will be one device that sounds pretty promising.</p>
<p>The SmartV5, which is basically the known cheapo-MID with more power inside (supposedly some Cortex A8 + 256MB Ram</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> This might be wrong, as the <a href="http://www.jiongtang.com/blog/html/smartq5/smartv7-pictures-and-specification.html">SmartV7 MID</a> uses a Telechips TCC8900 chipset—I couldn't find any further datasheets or information on it, but it is believed that this is an ARM11 chipset with video acceleration (somewhat comparable to the nVidia Tegra) and a HDMI output—manufactured by the chinese company Smart Devices, it is some kind of open—as it will be available with three different operating systems, like the companys known offerings: Android, Ubuntu and Windows CE—and that's just what the manufactorer supplies.</p>
<p>But as there is always something to complain, it doesn't have 3G—you can connect your surfstick via USB OTG, but there is no other option.</p>
<p>Anyway, you would not use that device as a phone anyway, featuring a 4.x” display, it is not <em>that</em> pocketable—but I still like it and look forward to some reviews of it—if the reviewers are not too disappointed about the build quality, i am likely to order one of these devices. </p>
<p>If I have the money to do so—I need a new notebook, as my current one (HP Compaq nx6325) just turned three years old. But this an entirely different topic…</p>